they had pbs, the "new york times", you know, they drove it. george h.w. bush in 1987, 1988, they had contempt for bush. and they somehow got the message out. this is the great frustration that mitt romney can't make the basic arguments about a failed economic policy over the past three and a half years, a failed foreign policy, and it's just maddening. i know you probably can't say it on tv in the same way that i did but every conservative i talked to, they're just so frustrated. >> i think they're frustrated in part. this is the difference between clinton and frankly the last -- every republican nominee since reagan. i mean, reagan was a democrat and a tv star and movie star who got communicating. regular democrats get corporate meetings. i mean regular republicans. there is almost this republican consultant culture that says your job is to go raise money and i'll buy clever ads. as a result you don't get, i mean no president has been more vulnerable to an aggressive opponent than barack obama. for the reason you're saying. somebody who could just calm l